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@Red - Apart from the fact that you'll now be first against the wall when the regime-change comes (Git :P ), being in the position that I'm in, I think there is ample external support available (School, Social Services, Counselling, etc) to adequately offset the issues you mentioned, and the introduction of the , makes it somewhat easier to put that support in place (although I concede there will always be those cases that slip through the net). In regards to the issue of contraception; I'm fairly confident in making the generalisation that the vast majority of teenage and unplanned pregnancies occur because no contraceptive measures were taken, rather than being due to a failure in the methods available. Your point about there being a possible deluge of legal actions is well-made, however I would point to this as evidence of issues within the legal system which need to be addressed to prevent inane cases coming to court (but that's getting off topic). As to the religious and pro-life argument: Whilst the UK is ethnically and religiously diverse, we are governed primarily as a secular state and should not forget that.

@Uzgah - The simple answer (and one that I'd support) is that the armed forces should be paid (alot) more considering the job that they're asked to do, but again, that is diverging from the main point of the debate...

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Don't even get me started...

Whilst I appreciate the divergence I am making, I cannot help but rise to the bait:

As far as I'm concerned, we should withdraw from the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights), which would then negate the need for the Human Rights Act 1998 and pave the way for its abolition. My reasoning is quite simple: I take any such additional* legislation as an implicit suggestion that the existing legal system in this country is in some way defective, in that the need for such additional legislation suggests the existing system is incapable of addressing the issue of Human Rights without it. That being the case, it then follows the existing legal system in this country needs serious revision, not the application of a band-aid solution managed by an external judiciary, over which the people of the country have no direct control (i.e. the European Court of Human Rights). That is without mentioning the odious contradiction in terms this (the ECHR) creates, as how can a body over which the people have no control, be trusted to oversee the basic rights of those it purports to represent? Thus I consider the ECHR to be grossly illegitimate at best and a form of subtle, uncontested and dictatorial oppression at worst.

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...and you all thought I'm anti-Europe... :lol:


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